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Within The Sheltering Peace – Islam and Woman

admin — Tue, 16 Aug 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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> Within The Sheltering Peace – Islam and Woman > By Tasleem K. Griffin > Sexual Politics

Some shelter, some peace. How fatuous and hollow this ridiculous screed is when compared to the reality of abused women and sex-starved, repressed and emotionally crippled men. Islamic sexual politics is just another crazy distortion of nature, used cynically to feed and project feelings of frustrations of young men into violence. Get a life. On second thoughts, bleed to death in a gutter somewhere. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1072-1739644,00.html IF WE REALLY want to understand the mindset of the Muslim fundamentalists, it’s time that the issue of sexual politics was addressed head on. Just how does the total domination of women in fundamentalist societies affect the men? After all, when it comes to sex, both genders are involved. And when it comes to extreme forms of aggression and violence, sublimated sexual fear and repression are all too often at the root of the problem. Take the heartbreaking story of a young Muslim woman, Fatima (I have changed her name), who was referred for psychotherapy. When I first saw her in the waiting area, she looked hunched and lifeless in her scruffy jeans and T-shirt. She had become so severely depressed she rarely left her refugee hostel. Her English was excellent. She was from a progressive Middle Eastern country where she had been a university lecturer before fleeing to the West. As a teenager she had been raped by her brother-in-law. Her mother swore her to secrecy – imperative to save the family honour. Years later, despite her successful career, her mother, against Fatima’s wishes, arranged for her to be married to a much older man. To conceal her lost virginity, her mother hired a doctor to sew up Fatima’s vagina. In an act of desperation Fatima took rat poison in a mosque. Her mother publicly denounced her daughter to protect the family from scandal. Should Fatima ever return home her brothers would murder her for bringing dishonour to their family. "Honour" killings, Fatima told me, were common – the authorities either turn a blind eye or issue six-month prison sentences. It’s too easy to pigeonhole Fatima’s distress as a "woman’s issue". Men are also victims of a cultural mindset that obliges them to display their masculine dominance by murdering their sisters if they are suspected of losing their virginity before marriage, or killing their wives if suspected of adultery. Fundamentalists demand that women be veiled and segregated at every level of society, starting at puberty. Public displays of affection between husbands and wives are forbidden. Wife-beating is so prevalent, many see it as a normal part of marriage. In bed any sexual position where the woman is on top is haram or sinful. It’s difficult to imagine how either gender can enjoy intimacy in such a climate. So what is the effect on young unmarried men who, like youths the world over, are subject to a whole host of fears about their burgeoning sexuality? What do they do with their unacceptable sexual fantasies fuelled by the strict regime and the temptations of the mysterious, hidden feminine world? Too often they project their self-disgust on to their object of desire, whom they blame for causing them to have "impure" thoughts. Twenty-five years ago when Ayatollah Khomeini took over Iran, women who let a single lock of hair fall beneath their headscarves were beaten for abusing their sexual power. Women who had worn make-up and Western dress under the Shah were denigrated as "Westoxicated". And the supposedly sexually licentious West became, and remains, "the Great Satan", purveyor of all evil that must be destroyed. The connections between sexual repression, extreme violence and a male obsession with war and death are recognisable in the West. In America Christian Reconstructionists, a fundamentalist sect, also advocate the death penalty for adultery, homosexuality and "unchastity before marriage" (but for women only). Studies of the psychology of Fascism show how the Nazi cult of obeying, adoring and fearing the F

URGENT!!!!!!!!! Room/Bed end of MAY for two weeks NEEDED!!!!! =) CENTRAL LONDON

admin — Sat, 23 Apr 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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URGENT NEEDED! =) I’m a American Female from Florida looking for a room/bed/couch in the Bayswater/ Nottinghill/ West Kensington/hammersmith/around that area. For two weeks at the end of May. I am a well mannered, nonsmoker, friendly, clean female. On Budget , please email me if you have something available or if you know someone who does. I hope to hear from you soon! p.s. only the above areas please…

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I found the Acacia hostel reasonable budget accommodations in central London; 5m walk from the South Kensington tube. Tim K

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Cancun buses questions

admin — Mon, 04 Apr 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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How much does the bus from the hotel strip into Cancun cost? Is it possible to get to Chichen-Itza with public transportation? If so, what’s the cost? If not, what does a tour cost? Thanks.

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I assume u mean from the hotel zone, into cancun ‘downtown.’ I do not know exactly, but I remember it was very cheap. It’s a pretty long trip to chichen itza, so I would suggest a tour. They are kind of expensive, but u get all the comforts, like A/C, maybe a meal, maybe a TV, and maybe a tour guide. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > How much does the bus from the hotel > strip into Cancun cost? > Is it possible to get to Chichen-Itza > with public transportation? If so, > what’s the cost? > If not, what does a tour cost? > Thanks.

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take buses, they’re cheap, fast, reliable, AC, curtains, not overcrowded and offer you the chance to mix and mingle with others.. chitzen itza is no more than 2.5hrs from cancun. stop in Valladolid for a day and check it out. — "When one realizes that life is worthless he either commits suicide or travels. ~ Edward Dahlberg LIFE IS AN ATTITUDE! http://www.globosapiens.net/ta-shy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I assume u mean from the hotel zone, into cancun ‘downtown.’ > I do not know exactly, but I remember it was very cheap. > It’s a pretty long trip to chichen itza, so I would suggest a tour. They > are kind of expensive, but u get all the comforts, like A/C, maybe a meal, > maybe a TV, and maybe a tour guide. > How much does the bus from the hotel > strip into Cancun cost? > Is it possible to get to Chichen-Itza > with public transportation? If so, > what’s the cost? > If not, what does a tour cost? > Thanks.

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> Is it possible to get to Chichen-Itza > with public transportation? If so, > what’s the cost? > If not, what does a tour cost?

Chichen-Itza is deep in the jungle, more than an hour from Cancun. It is not accessable via public transportation. It is best to take an organized tour. Most use 15 passenger vans, some use tour buses. Might run you $40. Well worth it.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Is it possible to get to Chichen-Itza >with public transportation? If so, >what’s the cost? >If not, what does a tour cost? > Chichen-Itza is deep in the jungle, more than an hour from Cancun. It > is not accessable via public transportation. > It is best to take an organized tour. Most use 15 passenger vans, some > use tour buses. > Might run you $40. Well worth it.

Coba is a better tour and comes with a cave tour and a gran cenote tour too. Lee

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I disagree, Chitzen Itza is the most famous site in Mexico and is very well preserved and very large. It is located 30 min. from Valladolid and it very well accessed by local transportation. I took a local bus there for about $5.00 from Valladolid. My best advice though is to go early in the morning, before 9am to escape the hoards of tourists that arrive after that. and wear a hat and lotion cause there is very little shade around. check out my pics of Chitzen Itza and other places in the Yucatan by following the link below. You can also check out 2 really awesome Ceynotes in Valla. One right in the middle of the town and the other just outside. safe yourself some $ and spend a night in the hostel, very nice and quiet. about $7.00/night "When one realizes that life is worthless he either commits suicide or travels. ~ Edward Dahlberg LIFE IS AN ATTITUDE! http://www.globosapiens.net/ta-shy — "When one realizes that life is worthless he either commits suicide or travels. ~ Edward Dahlberg LIFE IS AN ATTITUDE! http://www.globosapiens.net/ta-shy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>Is it possible to get to Chichen-Itza >>with public transportation? If so, >>what’s the cost? >>If not, what does a tour cost? > Chichen-Itza is deep in the jungle, more than an hour from Cancun. It > is not accessable via public transportation. > It is best to take an organized tour. Most use 15 passenger vans, some > use tour buses. Might run you $40. Well worth it. > Coba is a better tour and comes with a cave tour and a gran cenote tour > too. > Lee

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Budget hostel in Hong kong

admin — Mon, 31 Jan 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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Budget hostel located in heart of Hong Kong’s shopping zone. Single room US$22.69 night, Double bed room (with private washroom) US$33.36/night. Only 3 minutes walk from Mongkok MTR station. Please visit http://budgethostel.51.net for details.

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> Budget hostel located in heart of Hong Kong’s sewage treatment plant. Single room > US$22.69 night, Double bed room (with private washroom) US$33.36/night. Only > 3 minutes walk from main sludge reservoir. Please visit > http://budgethostel.51.net for details.

Why do you spam this every day ???????

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Budget hostel in Hong kOng

admin — Sun, 23 Jan 2005 00:00:00 +0000

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> Budget hostel located in heart of Hong Kong’s shopping zone. Single room > US$22.69 night, Double bed room (with private washroom) US$33.36/night. Only

A brand spanking new China Airlines 747-400 and a Korean Airlines A340 collided mid-air right over that hostel, first dumping all their flaming fuel on the hostel and then all the debris from the two wide body jets. So not only was the hostel smashed by the 8 engines falling on its roof, but the remains were burned to the ground by the flaming jet fuel. As a result, the Usenet community will be very happy not to see those pesky repetitive ads being spammed at unacceptable frequency on newsgroups.

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Hotels in Amsterdam?

admin — Wed, 10 Nov 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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>Can I add my recommendation to the Pulitzer? It’s a great 5* hotel with >character (not particularaly cheap though). Perhaps you could get a deal >with them by contacting the hotel directly? It’s actually several buildings >in one and along side a canal. >I’ve been to Amsterdam about 6 times in the last 3 years and stayed at the >Pulitzer on 4 of those occasions. Have you had a look on www.tripadvisor.com >for some other hotel reviews?

Off to Tripadvisor…. Thank you!

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I may have the opportunity to spend a few days in Amsterdam this month and was wondering about finding a hotel. I have the Frommer’s guidebook and there are certainly a number of choices there. I was wondering if there was a hotel desk at the downtown train station that might handle last minute deals on mid to up market hotels? Not particularly interested in a major chain monoblock or the hostel to two star type. Would like something smaller and quieter on one of the major canals.

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For an upmarket in a great location check out the Hotel Pulitzer (part of Starwood Group) For some great food in a good bar I fully recommend the Cafe Suisse on the Overtoom (not far from the Marriott and Leidseplein). Enjoy a great city! John – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I may have the opportunity to spend a few days in Amsterdam this month and was > wondering about finding a hotel. I have the Frommer’s guidebook and there are > certainly a number of choices there. > I was wondering if there was a hotel desk at the downtown train station that > might handle last minute deals on mid to up market hotels? Not particularly > interested in a major chain monoblock or the hostel to two star type. Would like > something smaller and quieter on one of the major canals.

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Can I add my recommendation to the Pulitzer? It’s a great 5* hotel with character (not particularaly cheap though). Perhaps you could get a deal with them by contacting the hotel directly? It’s actually several buildings in one and along side a canal. I’ve been to Amsterdam about 6 times in the last 3 years and stayed at the Pulitzer on 4 of those occasions. Have you had a look on www.tripadvisor.com for some other hotel reviews? js.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> For an upmarket in a great location check out the Hotel Pulitzer (part of > Starwood Group) > For some great food in a good bar I fully recommend the Cafe Suisse on the > Overtoom (not far from the Marriott and Leidseplein). > Enjoy a great city! > John > I may have the opportunity to spend a few days in Amsterdam this month > and > was > wondering about finding a hotel. I have the Frommer’s guidebook and there > are > certainly a number of choices there. > I was wondering if there was a hotel desk at the downtown train station > that > might handle last minute deals on mid to up market hotels? Not > particularly > interested in a major chain monoblock or the hostel to two star type. > Would like > something smaller and quieter on one of the major canals.

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>For an upmarket in a great location check out the Hotel Pulitzer (part of >Starwood Group) >For some great food in a good bar I fully recommend the Cafe Suisse on the >Overtoom (not far from the Marriott and Leidseplein).

Thank you!

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a place to stay in Queensland

admin — Tue, 21 Sep 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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Hello all, We are staying in Aus (Sydney) for three weeks in Feb and would like to have a week up the coast near to the GBR. Can anyone suggest somewhere which they think is particularly good for a short stay ? We will probably only have this one shot at it so we want to get it right ! All suggestions, ( assuming that they are reasonable !), will be considered. Thanks, Peter

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Airlie Beach is a good place to stay. Close to the Whitsundays which is very pretty. Lots of things to do. Have a look at http://www.queenslandholidays.com.au/whitsundays/airlie_beach.cfm http://www.holidaynq.com.au/Whitsundays/Whitsundays/whitsundays.html Julie

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello all, > We are staying in Aus (Sydney) for three weeks in Feb and would like to > have > a week up the coast near to the GBR. Can anyone suggest somewhere which > they > think is particularly good for a short stay ? We will probably only have > this one shot at it so we want to get it right ! > All suggestions, ( assuming that they are reasonable !), will be > considered. > Thanks, > Peter

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Peter, that is a bit like saying "We’ll be visiting Miami for 3 weeks and we’d like to see the Statue of Liberty while we are there". Sydney to Queensland is 900 kms and the southern most tip of the GBR is a further 500 kms north from there. I am afraid you will need to decide – do I want to see just another major city (Sydney) or do I want to wee the GBR? Yes. You can fly or drive to Brisbane and Yes. You can fly or drive to a city or town where you can get to the GBR. Where is the best place? Sorry. I can’t answer that. There are a number of places from Bundaberg northward stretching right up to Cairns and Port Douglas. That is a coast line stretching about 1200 kms or more and much of which is uninhabited. Try a Google search for GBR cruises using www.google.com.au and select "pages from Australia" only. Ross

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Hi.. You could probably spend a few days in Sydney and get a flight to Cairns (about $196 AUD). From there I would get an airport shuttle/bus from Cairns airport to a hotel in Port Douglas (about 40 minutes) rather than staying in Cairns. I love Port Douglas and I have stayed at the Radisson Treetops Resort which is fantastic – but it is not in the budget catergory, so I guess it depends on how much you are willing to spend. You could go all-out and stay in Palm Cove which is a beautiful area but very expensive. I would also suggest checking out Queensland holiday websites (http://www.sunloverholidays.com/slvhtml/index.asp) and maybe even Lonely Planet (www.lonelyplanet.com). The Thorn Tree forums at the Lonely Planet website have some great information about the best places to see the GBR (beginning, middle or end) and tips on where to stay. And if all this fails, when you get to Sydney go to a travel agent, get some brochures and book it that way. Happy Travels! Jassy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello all, > We are staying in Aus (Sydney) for three weeks in Feb and would like to have > a week up the coast near to the GBR. Can anyone suggest somewhere which they > think is particularly good for a short stay ? We will probably only have > this one shot at it so we want to get it right ! > All suggestions, ( assuming that they are reasonable !), will be considered. > Thanks, > Peter

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Jassy, Thank you so much. That’s plenty to be thinking about. The picture is getting clearer already ! Peter

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi.. > You could probably spend a few days in Sydney and get a flight to Cairns > (about $196 AUD). From there I would get an airport shuttle/bus from Cairns > airport to a hotel in Port Douglas (about 40 minutes) rather than staying in > Cairns. I love Port Douglas and I have stayed at the Radisson Treetops > Resort which is fantastic – but it is not in the budget catergory, so I > guess it depends on how much you are willing to spend. You could go all-out > and stay in Palm Cove which is a beautiful area but very expensive. > I would also suggest checking out Queensland holiday websites > (http://www.sunloverholidays.com/slvhtml/index.asp) and maybe even Lonely > Planet (www.lonelyplanet.com). The Thorn Tree forums at the Lonely Planet > website have some great information about the best places to see the GBR > (beginning, middle or end) and tips on where to stay. > And if all this fails, when you get to Sydney go to a travel agent, get some > brochures and book it that way. > Happy Travels! > Jassy > Hello all, > We are staying in Aus (Sydney) for three weeks in Feb and would like to > have > a week up the coast near to the GBR. Can anyone suggest somewhere which > they > think is particularly good for a short stay ? We will probably only have > this one shot at it so we want to get it right ! > All suggestions, ( assuming that they are reasonable !), will be > considered. > Thanks, > Peter

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Look for something you’d like at htt://travel.webhosting-list.com and http://journey.webhosting-list.com There are good suggestions for anywhere.

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> Hello all, > We are staying in Aus (Sydney) for three weeks in Feb and would like > to have > a week up the coast near to the GBR. Can anyone suggest somewhere > which they > think is particularly good for a short stay ? We will probably only > have > this one shot at it so we want to get it right ! > All suggestions, ( assuming that they are reasonable !), will be > considered. > Thanks, > Peter

I always head for the YHA. Great value, plus local experience and advice from managers and fellow travellers. check out http://www.yha.com.au/hostels/search/region.cfm?regionid=21 My favourite Oz YHA are Coffs Harbour and in sydney - Glebe – city hostel is functional but boring. happy holiday Cherokee — Posted via http://britishexpats.com

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Best cellular package/network to get for a backpacker?

admin — Fri, 27 Aug 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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A friend of mine wants to know which cell service to use to get his daughter a cellular phone for her 3 month backpacking tour of Australia. She will arrive in Sydney and be backpack up the east coast. I think the majority of her calls will be to and from her father here in Canada. Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions.

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Vodafone does $3 for 10 min on International calls to some countries, not sure about Canada. Tell her to get a prepay and Vodafone will probably be the best bet. Other wise try iSim www.isim.com.au who are also cheap. Don’t bother with an phone on account. If she has her own GSM phone, then she just needs to get a SIM card here. Generally they cost $30 and come with a $30 credit so if she is not happy with the first card she gets, then once the credit is used, she can get another one from another company rather than topping up the one that she has. If coverage in the country is what she wants, then Telstra CDMA pre-pay is what we use. You can buy a Nokia 2280 for $148 with $20 credit here in OZ. Still the most expensive network to use though. For International calls, a calling card is best and calls can be cheap as. eg OZCALL has rates of 0.9c/min from Australia to Canada – plus whatever it costs to make a local call. www.cardcall.com.au . Shops close to any backpacker hostel will have a wide range of calling cards with real cheap rates – it is hard to pick the best one, there are so many to choose from but the Cardcall ones are probably as good as any. SteveS

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> A friend of mine wants to know which cell service to use to get his > daughter a cellular phone for her 3 month backpacking tour of > Australia. She will arrive in Sydney and be backpack up the east > coast. > I think the majority of her calls will be to and from her father here > in Canada. > Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions.

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> > I think the majority of her calls will be to and from her father here > in Canada. > If she has her own GSM phone, then she just needs to get a SIM card here.

If she has a North American GSM phone, it might not work in Australia (unless it is a tri-band). North American GSM operates in the GSM1900 band, while Australian GSM operates in the GSM900 and GSM1800 bands.

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On our last trip we bought a Telstra prepaid card. I got regestired after a (toll free) 5 minute call to Telstra’s hotline and could use it perfectly for calling home (Germany). And we had access at even remote places (little villages along the coast). The 25$ for a prepaid card are a wise investment. It’s just better to know that you can call roadservice, make bookings at restaurants, inform your hotel about late arrival … My German Vodafone GSM-Card would work, but roaming is reather expensive (also, if you receive calls!). It’s still interesting to bring your German Vodafone Card, as you can send (and receive) shortmessages back home for free! Don’t know about rates for Canadian Vodafo Cards though. I also would check for the GSM-type you’re using at home (and consider buying a triband) as Gordon said. We will definetly try to get a new prepaid card from Telstra on our next tour to Australia in October. Have a look at . Bego — "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." - George W. Bush, 5.8.2004

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Telstra has the best coverage – used in conjunction with a callback service (Remember in Australia you do NOT pay for incoming mobile calls – unlike Canada!). There are several callback providers – and they are CHEAP!!!! We used: http://www.callbackworld.com/ Have Fun!!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->A friend of mine wants to know which cell service to use to get his > daughter a cellular phone for her 3 month backpacking tour of > Australia. She will arrive in Sydney and be backpack up the east > coast. > I think the majority of her calls will be to and from her father here > in Canada. > Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions.

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> A friend of mine wants to know which cell service to use to get his > daughter a cellular phone for her 3 month backpacking tour of > Australia. She will arrive in Sydney and be backpack up the east > coast. > I think the majority of her calls will be to and from her father here > in Canada. > Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions.

Adding to the other responses: Also realize that outside major cities/towns, one generally will have *no* coverage, so mobile phones will not work at all! What we used as an alternative is a *normal* Telstra phone card, i.e. (mainly) for use with a normal phone. They have free-of-charge call-in numbers and you can enable voicemail on the card. That way people can leave a message for you (you will have to give them your voicemail box number and (Oz) call-in number. When you call the free call-in number, you will be notified if there are any messages for you. You can easily add money to these cards (also by credit card). You can transfer the balance and voicemail box of one card to another, and if you look carefully you can have a card with a long expiration time (my current one was bought in October 2002 and expires in December 2004). You can use their cards from/in most countries, often with free-of-charge call-in numbers. So for example, I can call free-of-charge from The Netherlands to check my balance. Telstra is by no means the cheapest (in per-minute rates) card, but is very convenient for occasional use. If you want to call frequently, then *also* buy a cheap but less flexible card, for example the "Super Saver" cards from Coles supermarkets (AUD$ 30 for *500* minutes to most countries in Europe and North America).

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Is the information about cell access still applicable for more remote regions: like bicycling the Stuart Hwy (between Adelaide-Darwin) or the "Savannah Way" between Roper Bar (NT) or Mattaranka and Cairns? Ken Canada – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > A friend of mine wants to know which cell service to use to get his > daughter a cellular phone for her 3 month backpacking tour of > Australia. She will arrive in Sydney and be backpack up the east > coast. > I think the majority of her calls will be to and from her father here > in Canada. > Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions.

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> Is the information about cell access still applicable for more remote > regions: like bicycling the Stuart Hwy (between Adelaide-Darwin) or the > "Savannah Way" between Roper Bar (NT) or Mattaranka and Cairns? > Ken > Canada

Yup, no coverage outside major cities/towns. For details, see for example . These maps are very/’too’ detailed, but you can zoom out. IIRC, there used to be less detailed maps, but I can not find them at the moment. You should probably carry a satelite safety beacon (EPIRB) for emergencies. It can give a one way signal (not message), including your (GPS) location, to the emergency services. Misuse is obviously heavily fined. You can rent or buy these devices.

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Telstra has the best coverage hands down of all the "networks", some of the try-hards only cover metro areas. Rates are competitive, so the choice is real easy. As others have said, if you’re mainly in rural areas, CDMA coverage is worth considering, but obviously needs a separate phone. I’m not sure if there’s any CDMA/GSM handsets out there.

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What? Where? on Holiday

admin — Sun, 11 Jul 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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We like to offer a beuatiful holiday on Koh Mak, Trat, Thailand More activities you can do. Beach activities Swimming Fishing Snorkleling trip Scuba Dive Canue, Kayaking Island Trips Bike Cycle Dry Golf etc. For more information please contact Rano : 09-804-2595 O : 09-041-0406 http://www.kohmak.com

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> We like to offer a beuatiful holiday on Koh Mak, Trat, Thailand > More activities you can do. > Beach activities > Swimming > Fishing > Snorkleling trip > Scuba Dive > Canue, Kayaking > Island Trips > Bike Cycle > Dry Golf

Do you happen to know the guy with the budget hostel in Hong Kong?

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What do Jews believe?

admin — Wed, 26 May 2004 00:00:00 +0000

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> You ask me who taught us to murder, commit genocides and holocausts, > fill the world with mass-graves and the air with the screams of the > tortured, raped and maimed? Did you not read the Biblical OT account above, > or can’t you understand what you read? > Pastor Frank

we’ve already established that you are a theological retard. the new testament means nada without the old testament. but i’m not going any further into the subject with you since you are a slack-jawed mouth breathing cross-poster.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more > violence. >> If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel. > If Arabs put down their weapons today, then those who were living in > Palestine would all become refugees, as Israel ethnically cleanses them, > expropriates their land without compensation and builds ‘Jews only’ > settlements on them. > I guess we all know, that our reward will be an eventual nuclear > Apocalypse. See below > Pastor Frank > CAUSE OF THE APOCALYPSE: Being proud instead of repentant of the > horrific holocaust of the entire native population of "the promised land", > as well as the continuing colonial brutality against Palestinian natives. > The below atrocities were committed shortly after the God of the Jews, > YHWH, gave them the 10 commandments, forbidding Jews to covet their > neighbour’s property and kill them to get a hold of it. > Then we are told, YHWH who is supposed to be "the same yesterday, > today and tomorrow", changed His mind and commanded them to "kill all > that breatheth", to "occupy the land" and "reap where they have not sown", > resulting in the below holocaust. > Deuteronomy 20:16-17 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord > thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing > that breatheth. But thou shalt utterly destroy them; the Hittites, and the > Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the > Jebusites > as the Lord thy God has commanded thee." > Ezekiel 32:5 "I will strew your flesh upon the mountains, and fill the > valleys with your carcass. I will drench the land even to the mountains > with > your flowing blood…" > Ezekiel 9:5 "Pass through the city after him, and smite; your eye shall > not spare and you shall show no pity; slay old men outright, young men and > maidens, little children and women…’" > Deut. 7:1 (KJV)When Yahweh your god has settled you in the land you’re > about to occupy, and driven out many infidels before you…you’re to cut > them down and exterminate them. You’re to make no compromise with > them nor show them any mercy. > Joshua 10:40 – BBE So Joshua struck all the land, the hill-country, and > the South, and the lowland, and the slopes, and all their kings: he left > none remaining, but he utterly destroyed all that breathed, as God, the > God > of Israel, commanded." > 1 Samuel 15:3 – BBE Now go and strike Amalek, and utterly destroy all > that they have, and don’t spare them; but kill both man and woman, infant > and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and donkey." > Isaiah 13:16 – BBE Their infants also will be dashed in pieces before > their eyes. Their houses will be ransacked, and their wives raped." > Hosea 13:16 – BBE Samaria will bear her guilt; For she has rebelled > against her God. They will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed > in pieces, And their pregnant women will be ripped open." > Moses in Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the > little ones, and kill every woman, that hath known man by lying with him. > But all the female children, that have not known man by lying with him, > keep alive for yourself. > PROPHETIC APOCALYPSE, (The N-U-C-L-E-A-R consequence of the abomination > above and others like it, employing great noise and heat that can melt > elements, scorch people and destroy the "works of man" on a massive scale) > 2Pt:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; > in > the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements > shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are > therein > shall be burned up. > 2Pt:3:12: Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, > wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements > shall > melt with fervent heat? > Jesus in Matt. 24:16: Then let them which be in Judea flee into the > mountains: > 17: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing > out > of his house: > 18: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his > clothes. > 19: And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck > in > those days! > 20: But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the > sabbath day: > 21: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the > beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. > 22: And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be > saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened. > Jesus in Lk:23:30: Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall > on us; and to the hills, Cover us. > Rv:16:9: And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name > of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give > him glory. > YEP YOU GOT IT RIGHT. HEY PASTOR HOW MANY KIDDIES DID YOU DO. DID YOU GET > PROMOTED FOR IT. TELL US ABOUT THE MURDER YOU COMMIT. WHO TAUGHT YOU THIS, > TO MURDER.

You ask me who taught us to murder, commit genocides and holocausts, fill the world with mass-graves and the air with the screams of the tortured, raped and maimed? Did you not read the Biblical OT account above, or can’t you understand what you read? Pastor Frank THE GOLDEN RULE OF CHRIST Jesus in Matt. 7:12: "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them…." Jesus in Mt:18:7: Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh! Jesus in Mt:8:12: Offenders shall be cast out into outer darkness where there is wailing and gnashing of teeth. Jesus in Mt:7:2: For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

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Web Sites Dealing with Witchcraft Hysteria in Europe By Leland K. Meitzler Executive Editor, Heritage Quest Magazine Long before the unfortunate events in Salem, Massachusetts, thousands of good people were accused of witchcraft and were sent to the stake. The Inquisition was especially hard on folks who might be "different" in some way. Following are a few Web sites where genealogists and historians can get a.. Witchcraft in Early Modern Europe and America – a Bibliography b.. Witches c.. Malleus Maleficarum (1486) d.. The Witch Persecution at Trier e.. The Witch Persecution at Bonn f.. The Witch Persecution at Bamberg g.. The Witch Persecution at Wurzburg h.. The Tryal, Condemnation and Execution of Three Witches i.. A True and Impartial Relation of the Informations against Three Witches j.. De la Demonomanie des Sorciers (Paris, 1580) k.. Rye Ergot and Witches l.. The Pendle Witches m.. The Burning Times n.. Why were the Witches Tortured? For a number of in-depth articles on the accused witches of early New England, read Heritage Quest Magazine, September/October 2002. Back to Top More Expert Advice Articles — PETER If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more > violence. > If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel. > If Arabs put down their weapons today, then those who were living in > Palestine would all become refugees, as Israel ethnically cleanses them, > expropriates their land without compensation and builds ‘Jews only’ > settlements on them. > I guess we all know, that our reward will be an eventual nuclear > Apocalypse. See below > Pastor Frank > CAUSE OF THE APOCALYPSE: Being proud instead of repentant of the > horrific holocaust of the entire native population of "the promised land", > as well as the continuing colonial brutality against Palestinian natives. > The below atrocities were committed shortly after the God of the Jews, > YHWH, gave them the 10 commandments, forbidding Jews to covet their > neighbour’s property and kill them to get a hold of it. > Then we are told, YHWH who is supposed to be "the same yesterday, > today and tomorrow", changed His mind and commanded them to "kill all > that breatheth", to "occupy the land" and "reap where they have not sown", > resulting in the below holocaust. > Deuteronomy 20:16-17 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord > thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing > that breatheth. But thou shalt utterly destroy them; the Hittites, and the > Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the > Jebusites > as the Lord thy God has commanded thee." > Ezekiel 32:5 "I will strew your flesh upon the mountains, and fill the > valleys with your carcass. I will drench the land even to the mountains > with > your flowing blood…" > Ezekiel 9:5 "Pass through the city after him, and smite; your eye shall > not spare and you shall show no pity; slay old men outright, young men and > maidens, little children and women…’" > Deut. 7:1 (KJV)When Yahweh your god has settled you in the land you’re > about to occupy, and driven out many infidels before you…you’re to cut > them down and exterminate them. You’re to make no compromise with > them nor show them any mercy. > Joshua 10:40 – BBE So Joshua struck all the land, the hill-country, and > the South, and the lowland, and the slopes, and all their kings: he left > none remaining, but he utterly destroyed all that breathed, as God, the > God > of Israel, commanded." > 1 Samuel 15:3 – BBE Now go and strike Amalek, and utterly destroy all > that they have, and don’t spare them; but kill both man and woman, infant > and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and donkey." > Isaiah 13:16 – BBE Their infants also will be dashed in pieces before > their eyes. Their houses will be ransacked, and their wives raped." > Hosea 13:16 – BBE Samaria will bear her guilt; For she has rebelled > against her God. They will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed > in pieces, And their pregnant women will be ripped open." > Moses in Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the > little ones, and kill every woman, that hath known man by lying with him. > But all the female children, that have not known man by lying with him, > keep alive for yourself. > PROPHETIC APOCALYPSE, (The N-U-C-L-E-A-R consequence of the abomination > above and others like it, employing great noise and heat that can melt > elements, scorch people and destroy the "works of man" on a massive scale) > 2Pt:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; > in > the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements > shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are > therein > shall be burned up. > 2Pt:3:12: Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, > wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements > shall > melt with fervent heat? > Jesus in Matt. 24:16: Then let them which be in Judea flee into the > mountains: > 17: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing > out > of his house: > 18: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his > clothes. > 19: And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck > in > those days! > 20: But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the > sabbath day: > 21: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the > beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. > 22: And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be > saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened. > Jesus in Lk:23:30: Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall > on us; and to the hills, Cover us. > Rv:16:9: And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name > of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give > him glory.

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THANKS — PETER If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel.

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> If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. > If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel.

If Arabs put down their weapons today, then those who were living in Palestine would all become refugees, as Israel ethnically cleanses them, expropriates their land without compensation and builds ‘Jews only’ settlements on them. I guess we all know, that our reward will be an eventual nuclear Apocalypse. See below Pastor Frank CAUSE OF THE APOCALYPSE: Being proud instead of repentant of the horrific holocaust of the entire native population of "the promised land", as well as the continuing colonial brutality against Palestinian natives. The below atrocities were committed shortly after the God of the Jews, YHWH, gave them the 10 commandments, forbidding Jews to covet their neighbour’s property and kill them to get a hold of it. Then we are told, YHWH who is supposed to be "the same yesterday, today and tomorrow", changed His mind and commanded them to "kill all that breatheth", to "occupy the land" and "reap where they have not sown", resulting in the below holocaust. Deuteronomy 20:16-17 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth. But thou shalt utterly destroy them; the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites as the Lord thy God has commanded thee." Ezekiel 32:5 "I will strew your flesh upon the mountains, and fill the valleys with your carcass. I will drench the land even to the mountains with your flowing blood…" Ezekiel 9:5 "Pass through the city after him, and smite; your eye shall not spare and you shall show no pity; slay old men outright, young men and maidens, little children and women…’" Deut. 7:1 (KJV)When Yahweh your god has settled you in the land you’re about to occupy, and driven out many infidels before you…you’re to cut them down and exterminate them. You’re to make no compromise with them nor show them any mercy. Joshua 10:40 – BBE So Joshua struck all the land, the hill-country, and the South, and the lowland, and the slopes, and all their kings: he left none remaining, but he utterly destroyed all that breathed, as God, the God of Israel, commanded." 1 Samuel 15:3 – BBE Now go and strike Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and don’t spare them; but kill both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and donkey." Isaiah 13:16 – BBE Their infants also will be dashed in pieces before their eyes. Their houses will be ransacked, and their wives raped." Hosea 13:16 – BBE Samaria will bear her guilt; For she has rebelled against her God. They will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed in pieces, And their pregnant women will be ripped open." Moses in Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman, that hath known man by lying with him. But all the female children, that have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourself. PROPHETIC APOCALYPSE, (The N-U-C-L-E-A-R consequence of the abomination above and others like it, employing great noise and heat that can melt elements, scorch people and destroy the "works of man" on a massive scale) 2Pt:3:10: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 2Pt:3:12: Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Jesus in Matt. 24:16: Then let them which be in Judea flee into the mountains: 17: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19: And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20: But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22: And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened. Jesus in Lk:23:30: Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us. Rv:16:9: And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

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> Doesn’t seem as violent as the Koran .

in first kings chapter 15(i beleive) god instructs the israelites to destroy the amolek tribe. he tells them to kill every man, woman and child. but the king of the israelites spares the king of the amolek as a sort of war prize and god punishes the jews for this. the point here is that the jews and the christians (including the roman catholic church) have under gone major reforms. the religons are ever evolving. the end of the current catholic scandal, for instance, is far from over. the end result will be, i hope, a church that doesn’t turn a blind eye to clergy abuses. they’re are other possible corrective action that could be taken as well. priest being allowed to marry and have families would put family men in parishes. male parents as priest would be a great watch dog against pedophilic preists. but i digress. christianity and judaism have reformed them selves over several thousand years. islam hasn’t. all islam seems to do is produce off shoots more violent, bigoted and backwards than the last off shoot. they now teach a theology and social mind set that more closely resembles a medieval european mindset. in short muslims need to get thier collective shit in one sock and join the 21st century.

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what are you? illiterate? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Doesn’t seem as violent as the Koran . > " …Some Teachings of the Talmud > Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be > punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell. > Moed Kattan 17a . If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a > city where he is not known and do the evil there. > Non-Jews are Not Human > Baba Mezia 114a-114b. Only Jews are human ("Only ye are designated > men"). Also see Kerithoth 6b under the sub-head, "Oil of Anointing" > and Berakoth 58a in which Gentile women are designated animals > ("she-asses"). > Jews are Divine > Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (Gentile) hits a Jew, the Gentile must be > killed. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God. > O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews > Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a Gentile ("Cuthean") the wages > owed him for work. > Jews Have Superior Legal Status > Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite > there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an > Israelite…the payment is to be in full." > Jews May Steal from Non-Jews > Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a Gentile > ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba > Kamma 113b). > Sanhedrin 76a . God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to > an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost > article to a Cuthean…" > Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews > Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a Gentile ("Cuthean"), there will > be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a Gentile he may keep. > Baba Kamma 37b. Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God > has "exposed their money to Israel." > Jews May Lie to Non-Jews > Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a > Gentile. > Non-Jewish Children Sub-Human > Yebamoth 98a. All Gentile children are animals. > Abodah Zarah 36b . Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from > birth. > Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows. > Abodah Zarah 67b . "The vessels of Gentiles, do they not impart a > worsened flavor to the food cooked in them?" > Insults Against Blessed Mary > Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus’ mother was a whore: "She who was the > descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with > carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b it is stated that in > the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, > "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men. > Gloats over Christ Dying Young > A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus > died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?–He replied: It is > not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men > shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three > or thirty-four years old." > Says Jesus was a Sorcerer > Sanhedrin 43a . Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in footnote #6, Yeshu "the > Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery. > Horrible Blasphemy of Our Lord > Gittin 57a . Says Jesus ( see footnote #4) is being boiled in "hot > excrement." > Sanhedrin 43a . Jesus deserved execution: "On the eve of the Passover, > Yeshu was hanged…Do you suppose that he was one for whom a defense > could be made? Was he not a Mesith (enticer)?" > Attacks Christians and their Books > Rosh Hashanah 17a . Christians ("minim") and others who reject the > Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations (see > footnote #11 for the definition of minim). > Sanhedrin 90a.Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books," > see footnote #9) will have no portion in the world to come. > Shabbath 116a (p. 569). Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, > i.e. the New Testament. See footnote #6. > Israel Shahak reports that the Zionists burned hundreds of New > Testament books in Occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish > History, Jewish Religion, p. 21). > Sick and Insane Teachings > Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies within > the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix it with honey and eat it. > Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a holy > way is given. > Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the > animals in the Garden of Eden. > Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations. > Sanhedrin 55b . A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, > three years "and a day" old). > Sanhedrin 54b . A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child > is less than nine years old. > Kethuboth 11b . "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little > girl it is nothing." > Yebamoth 59b . A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to > marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also > eligible to marry a Jewish priest. > Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that > Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with. > Hagigah 27a . States that no rabbi can ever go to hell. > Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the > rabbi won the debate. > Gittin 70a . The Rabbis taught: "On coming from a privy (outdoor > toilet) a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited > long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is > with him for that time; if he does, his children will be epileptic." > Toilet and excrement obsessions are laced throughout Talmud and were > exhibited in Spielberg*s Schindler’s List where the Hollywood director > shows a Jewish child jumping through a toilet seat in an outhouse and > falling into a pool of liquefied excrement. There the child meets two > other Jewish children partially immersed who inform the interloper > that this cesspool is their hiding spot exclusively and that he must > find his own. These are the kind of disgusting and morbid, psychotic > images which Jewish kids are exposed to constantly in the cinematic > liturgy of Holocaustianity and for that matter, in the Talmud as well. > Gittin 69b (p. 329). To heal the disease of pleurisy ("catarrh") a Jew > should >take the excrement of a white dog and knead it with balsam, > but if he can possibly avoid it he should not eat the dog’s excrement > as it loosens the limbs.< > Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass > between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm > trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or > sitting at a crossroads. > Menahoth 43b-44a . A Jewish man is obligated to say the following > prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a Gentile, a woman > or a slave. > Shabbath 86a-86b. Because Jews are holy they do not have sex during > the day unless the house can be made dark. A Jewish scholar can have > sex during the day if he uses his garment like a tent to make it dark. > Tall Tales of a Roman Holocaust > Here are two early "Holocaust" tales from the Talmud: Gittin 57b. > Claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of > Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped > in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans. (Ancient demography > indicates that there were not 16 million Jews in the entire world at > that time, much less 16 million Jewish children or four billion Jews). > A Revealing Admission > Abodah Zarah 70a . The question was asked of the rabbi whether some > wine stolen in Pumbeditha might be used or if it was defiled, due to > the fact that the thieves might have been Gentiles (a Gentile touching > wine would make the wine unclean). The rabbi says not to worry, that > the wine is permissible for Jewish use because the majority of the > thieves in Pumbeditha, the place where the wine was stolen, are Jews > Pharisaic Rituals > Erubin 21b (p. 150). >>Rabbi Akiba said to him, "Give me some water to > wash my hands." > "It will not suffice for drinking," the other complained, "will it > suffice for washing your hands?" > "What can I do?’ the former replied, "when for neglecting the words of > the Rabbis one deserves death? It is better that I myself should die > than that I transgress against the opinion of my colleagues." [This is > the ritual hand washing condemned by Jesus in Matthew 15: 1-9]. > Great Rabbi Deceives A Woman > Kallah 51a (Soncino Minor Tractates). Teaches that God approves of > rabbis who lie: > "The elders were once sitting in the gate when two young lads passed > by; one covered his head and the other uncovered his head. Of him who > uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard. Rabbi > Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child conceived > during a woman’s menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both a > bastard and a son of a niddah. > "They said, ‘What induced you to contradict the opinion of your > colleagues?’ He replied, "I will prove it concerning him." He went to > the lad’s mother and found her sitting in the market selling beans. > "He said to her, ‘My daughter, if you will answer the question I will > put to you, I will bring you to the world to come.’ (eternal life). > She said to him, ‘Swear it to me.’ Rabbi

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Doesn’t seem as violent as the Koran .

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> " …Some Teachings of the Talmud > Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be > punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell. > Moed Kattan 17a . If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a > city where he is not known and do the evil there. > Non-Jews are Not Human > Baba Mezia 114a-114b. Only Jews are human ("Only ye are designated > men"). Also see Kerithoth 6b under the sub-head, "Oil of Anointing" > and Berakoth 58a in which Gentile women are designated animals > ("she-asses"). > Jews are Divine > Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (Gentile) hits a Jew, the Gentile must be > killed. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God. > O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews > Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a Gentile ("Cuthean") the wages > owed him for work. > Jews Have Superior Legal Status > Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite > there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an > Israelite…the payment is to be in full." > Jews May Steal from Non-Jews > Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a Gentile > ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba > Kamma 113b). > Sanhedrin 76a . God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to > an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost > article to a Cuthean…" > Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews > Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a Gentile ("Cuthean"), there will > be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a Gentile he may keep. > Baba Kamma 37b. Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God > has "exposed their money to Israel." > Jews May Lie to Non-Jews > Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a > Gentile. > Non-Jewish Children Sub-Human > Yebamoth 98a. All Gentile children are animals. > Abodah Zarah 36b . Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from > birth. > Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows. > Abodah Zarah 67b . "The vessels of Gentiles, do they not impart a > worsened flavor to the food cooked in them?" > Insults Against Blessed Mary > Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus’ mother was a whore: "She who was the > descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with > carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b it is stated that in > the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, > "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men. > Gloats over Christ Dying Young > A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus > died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?–He replied: It is > not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men > shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three > or thirty-four years old." > Says Jesus was a Sorcerer > Sanhedrin 43a . Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in footnote #6, Yeshu "the > Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery. > Horrible Blasphemy of Our Lord > Gittin 57a . Says Jesus ( see footnote #4) is being boiled in "hot > excrement." > Sanhedrin 43a . Jesus deserved execution: "On the eve of the Passover, > Yeshu was hanged…Do you suppose that he was one for whom a defense > could be made? Was he not a Mesith (enticer)?" > Attacks Christians and their Books > Rosh Hashanah 17a . Christians ("minim") and others who reject the > Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations (see > footnote #11 for the definition of minim). > Sanhedrin 90a.Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books," > see footnote #9) will have no portion in the world to come. > Shabbath 116a (p. 569). Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, > i.e. the New Testament. See footnote #6. > Israel Shahak reports that the Zionists burned hundreds of New > Testament books in Occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish > History, Jewish Religion, p. 21). > Sick and Insane Teachings > Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies within > the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix it with honey and eat it. > Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a holy > way is given. > Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the > animals in the Garden of Eden. > Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations. > Sanhedrin 55b . A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, > three years "and a day" old). > Sanhedrin 54b . A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child > is less than nine years old. > Kethuboth 11b . "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little > girl it is nothing." > Yebamoth 59b . A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to > marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also > eligible to marry a Jewish priest. > Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that > Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with. > Hagigah 27a . States that no rabbi can ever go to hell. > Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the > rabbi won the debate. > Gittin 70a . The Rabbis taught: "On coming from a privy (outdoor > toilet) a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited > long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is > with him for that time; if he does, his children will be epileptic." > Toilet and excrement obsessions are laced throughout Talmud and were > exhibited in Spielberg*s Schindler’s List where the Hollywood director > shows a Jewish child jumping through a toilet seat in an outhouse and > falling into a pool of liquefied excrement. There the child meets two > other Jewish children partially immersed who inform the interloper > that this cesspool is their hiding spot exclusively and that he must > find his own. These are the kind of disgusting and morbid, psychotic > images which Jewish kids are exposed to constantly in the cinematic > liturgy of Holocaustianity and for that matter, in the Talmud as well. > Gittin 69b (p. 329). To heal the disease of pleurisy ("catarrh") a Jew > should >take the excrement of a white dog and knead it with balsam, > but if he can possibly avoid it he should not eat the dog’s excrement > as it loosens the limbs.< > Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass > between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm > trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or > sitting at a crossroads. > Menahoth 43b-44a . A Jewish man is obligated to say the following > prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a Gentile, a woman > or a slave. > Shabbath 86a-86b. Because Jews are holy they do not have sex during > the day unless the house can be made dark. A Jewish scholar can have > sex during the day if he uses his garment like a tent to make it dark. > Tall Tales of a Roman Holocaust > Here are two early "Holocaust" tales from the Talmud: Gittin 57b. > Claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of > Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped > in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans. (Ancient demography > indicates that there were not 16 million Jews in the entire world at > that time, much less 16 million Jewish children or four billion Jews). > A Revealing Admission > Abodah Zarah 70a . The question was asked of the rabbi whether some > wine stolen in Pumbeditha might be used or if it was defiled, due to > the fact that the thieves might have been Gentiles (a Gentile touching > wine would make the wine unclean). The rabbi says not to worry, that > the wine is permissible for Jewish use because the majority of the > thieves in Pumbeditha, the place where the wine was stolen, are Jews > Pharisaic Rituals > Erubin 21b (p. 150). >>Rabbi Akiba said to him, "Give me some water to > wash my hands." > "It will not suffice for drinking," the other complained, "will it > suffice for washing your hands?" > "What can I do?’ the former replied, "when for neglecting the words of > the Rabbis one deserves death? It is better that I myself should die > than that I transgress against the opinion of my colleagues." [This is > the ritual hand washing condemned by Jesus in Matthew 15: 1-9]. > Great Rabbi Deceives A Woman > Kallah 51a (Soncino Minor Tractates). Teaches that God approves of > rabbis who lie: > "The elders were once sitting in the gate when two young lads passed > by; one covered his head and the other uncovered his head. Of him who > uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard. Rabbi > Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child conceived > during a woman’s menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both a > bastard and a son of a niddah. > "They said, ‘What induced you to contradict the opinion of your > colleagues?’ He replied, "I will prove it concerning him." He went to > the lad’s mother and found her sitting in the market selling beans. > "He said to her, ‘My daughter, if you will answer the question I will > put to you, I will bring you to the world to come.’ (eternal life). > She said to him, ‘Swear it to me.’ Rabbi Akiba, taking the oath with > his lips but annulling it in his heart, said to her, ‘What is the > status of your son?’ She replied, ‘When I entered the bridal chamber I > was niddah (menstruating) and my husband kept away from me; but my > best man had intercourse with me and this son was born to me.’ > Consequently the child was both a bastard and the son of a niddah. > It was declared, ‘..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His > Secret to Rabbi Akiba…" > In addition to the theme that God rewards clever liars the preceding > discussion is actually about Christ (the lad who

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neurosis is taken you both over, better emigrate to the "bulwark"s safety!

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Well, it was just a suggestion. neurosis is taken you both over, better emigrate to the "bulwark"s safety!

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" …Some Teachings of the Talmud Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell. Moed Kattan 17a . If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there. Non-Jews are Not Human Baba Mezia 114a-114b. Only Jews are human ("Only ye are designated men"). Also see Kerithoth 6b under the sub-head, "Oil of Anointing" and Berakoth 58a in which Gentile women are designated animals ("she-asses"). Jews are Divine Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (Gentile) hits a Jew, the Gentile must be killed. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God. O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a Gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work. Jews Have Superior Legal Status Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite…the payment is to be in full." Jews May Steal from Non-Jews Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a Gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a . God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean…" Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a Gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a Gentile he may keep. Baba Kamma 37b. Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel." Jews May Lie to Non-Jews Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile. Non-Jewish Children Sub-Human Yebamoth 98a. All Gentile children are animals. Abodah Zarah 36b . Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth. Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows. Abodah Zarah 67b . "The vessels of Gentiles, do they not impart a worsened flavor to the food cooked in them?" Insults Against Blessed Mary Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus’ mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men. Gloats over Christ Dying Young A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?–He replied: It is not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years old." Says Jesus was a Sorcerer Sanhedrin 43a . Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in footnote #6, Yeshu "the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery. Horrible Blasphemy of Our Lord Gittin 57a . Says Jesus ( see footnote #4) is being boiled in "hot excrement." Sanhedrin 43a . Jesus deserved execution: "On the eve of the Passover, Yeshu was hanged…Do you suppose that he was one for whom a defense could be made? Was he not a Mesith (enticer)?" Attacks Christians and their Books Rosh Hashanah 17a . Christians ("minim") and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations (see footnote #11 for the definition of minim). Sanhedrin 90a.Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books," see footnote #9) will have no portion in the world to come. Shabbath 116a (p. 569). Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament. See footnote #6. Israel Shahak reports that the Zionists burned hundreds of New Testament books in Occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21). Sick and Insane Teachings Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies within the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix it with honey and eat it. Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a holy way is given. Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden. Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations. Sanhedrin 55b . A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old). Sanhedrin 54b . A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old. Kethuboth 11b . "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing." Yebamoth 59b . A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest. Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with. Hagigah 27a . States that no rabbi can ever go to hell. Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate. Gittin 70a . The Rabbis taught: "On coming from a privy (outdoor toilet) a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is with him for that time; if he does, his children will be epileptic." Toilet and excrement obsessions are laced throughout Talmud and were exhibited in Spielberg*s Schindler’s List where the Hollywood director shows a Jewish child jumping through a toilet seat in an outhouse and falling into a pool of liquefied excrement. There the child meets two other Jewish children partially immersed who inform the interloper that this cesspool is their hiding spot exclusively and that he must find his own. These are the kind of disgusting and morbid, psychotic images which Jewish kids are exposed to constantly in the cinematic liturgy of Holocaustianity and for that matter, in the Talmud as well. Gittin 69b (p. 329). To heal the disease of pleurisy ("catarrh") a Jew should >take the excrement of a white dog and knead it with balsam, but if he can possibly avoid it he should not eat the dog’s excrement as it loosens the limbs.< Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or sitting at a crossroads. Menahoth 43b-44a . A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a Gentile, a woman or a slave. Shabbath 86a-86b. Because Jews are holy they do not have sex during the day unless the house can be made dark. A Jewish scholar can have sex during the day if he uses his garment like a tent to make it dark. Tall Tales of a Roman Holocaust Here are two early "Holocaust" tales from the Talmud: Gittin 57b. Claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans. (Ancient demography indicates that there were not 16 million Jews in the entire world at that time, much less 16 million Jewish children or four billion Jews). A Revealing Admission Abodah Zarah 70a . The question was asked of the rabbi whether some wine stolen in Pumbeditha might be used or if it was defiled, due to the fact that the thieves might have been Gentiles (a Gentile touching wine would make the wine unclean). The rabbi says not to worry, that the wine is permissible for Jewish use because the majority of the thieves in Pumbeditha, the place where the wine was stolen, are Jews Pharisaic Rituals Erubin 21b (p. 150). >>Rabbi Akiba said to him, "Give me some water to wash my hands." "It will not suffice for drinking," the other complained, "will it suffice for washing your hands?" "What can I do?’ the former replied, "when for neglecting the words of the Rabbis one deserves death? It is better that I myself should die than that I transgress against the opinion of my colleagues." [This is the ritual hand washing condemned by Jesus in Matthew 15: 1-9]. Great Rabbi Deceives A Woman Kallah 51a (Soncino Minor Tractates). Teaches that God approves of rabbis who lie: "The elders were once sitting in the gate when two young lads passed by; one covered his head and the other uncovered his head. Of him who uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard. Rabbi Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child conceived during a woman’s menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both a bastard and a son of a niddah. "They said, ‘What induced you to contradict the opinion of your colleagues?’ He replied, "I will prove it concerning him." He went to the lad’s mother and found her sitting in the market selling beans. "He said to her, ‘My daughter, if you will answer the question I will put to you, I will bring you to the world to come.’ (eternal life). She said to him, ‘Swear it to me.’ Rabbi Akiba, taking the oath with his lips but annulling it in his heart, said to her, ‘What is the status of your son?’ She replied, ‘When I entered the bridal chamber I was niddah (menstruating) and my husband kept away from me; but my best man had intercourse with me and this son was born to me.’ Consequently the child was both a bastard and the son of a niddah. It was declared, ‘..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His Secret to Rabbi Akiba…" In addition to the theme that God rewards clever liars the preceding discussion is actually about Christ (the lad who ‘uncovered his head’). The reference to the lad’s mother is of course to the mother of Jesus, Blessed Mary (called Miriam and sometimes, Miriam the hairdresser, in Talmud). Genocide Advocated by Talmud Minor Tractates. Soferim 15, Rule 10. This is the saying of Rabbi Simon ben Yohai: Tob shebe goyyim harog ("Even the best of the Gentiles should all be killed"). This passage is not from the Soncino edition but is from the original Hebrew of the Babylonian Talmud as quoted by the 1907 Jewish Encyclopedia, published by Funk and Wagnalls and compiled by … read more »

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If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel. Well, wouldn’t that be great!! No, Israel means no violence! So, what are we waiting for! Let’s get rid of the violence, let’s get rid of Israel! JEWS AND MOOOSLIMES ARE NOT EVEN A BILLION BILLION TRILLIONTH SIMILAR TO THE ISLAMIC BEASTS. MOOOSLIMES EAT NON KOSHER FOOD ISLAMIC DOGS. "Anyone who can read should read Talmud unexpurgated. It will make your hair curl up!" YEP YOU WILL HAVE TO GIVE UP YOUR BASTARD ALLAH AND SCUM BAG MOHAMED. I CAN SEE HOW THAT WOULD MAKE YOUR HAIR CURL. PETER They both accept kosher foods. The rituals are virtually the same. They both reject Christ as the son of god. — Discuss Christianity, Islam etc. http://www.comicboards.org/religion > > > What do Jews believe? [ Beliefs ] > > Most people around the world have no clue about what Judaism teaches. > > Anyone who can read should read Talmud unexpurgated. It will make your hair > curl up! > >

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JEWS AND MOOOSLIMES ARE NOT EVEN A BILLION BILLION TRILLIONTH SIMILAR TO THE ISLAMIC BEASTS. MOOOSLIMES EAT NON KOSHER FOOD ISLAMIC DOGS. "Anyone who can read should read Talmud unexpurgated. It will make your hair curl up!" YEP YOU WILL HAVE TO GIVE UP YOUR BASTARD ALLAH AND SCUM BAG MOHAMED. I CAN SEE HOW THAT WOULD MAKE YOUR HAIR CURL. PETER If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel. If we are going by the texts, the Jews believe in everything that the Muslims believe. They both accept kosher foods. The rituals are virtually the same. They both reject Christ as the son of god. — Discuss Christianity, Islam etc. http://www.comicboards.org/religion > > > What do Jews believe? [ Beliefs ] > > Most people around the world have no clue about what Judaism teaches. > > Anyone who can read should read Talmud unexpurgated. It will make your hair > curl up! > >

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If we are going by the texts, the Jews believe in everything that the Muslims believe. They both accept kosher foods. The rituals are virtually the same. They both reject Christ as the son of god. — Discuss Christianity, Islam etc. http://www.comicboards.org/religion

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>What do Jews believe? [ Beliefs ] >Most people around the world have no clue about what Judaism teaches. Worse >yet, many who think that they know, have misconceptions about Judaism, often >coming from Christianity. >I am often asked to explain very briefly what Jews believe. To answer this >question, I have written down the following list. The purpose of the list is >to succinctly explain all of the basic beliefs as fully as possible; and >that the explanation be easily understood by all, including those who have >no prior knowledge of Judaism. As far as I know, there is support for all of >these beliefs in the Hebrew Bible. I hope to write more about each point >later.

I posted your article in the OC_RELIGION discussion forum, and a Jewish participant responded and said there were several heresies in it, from a Jewish point of view. For more information about the OC_RELIGION discussion forum see: http://www.orthodoxy.faithweb.com/religion.htm or http://www.fortunecitiy.com/Victorian/Stanmer/182/religion.htm — Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm E-mail – see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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Because of the amount of anti-Jew NAZIS on the news group S.H.A.R.P.’s are real skinheads — not the NAZI BONEHEADS! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> And how this is relevent to alt.skinheads is ? > What do Jews believe? [ Beliefs ] > Most people around the world have no clue about what Judaism teaches. > Worse > yet, many who think that they know, have misconceptions about Judaism, > often > coming from Christianity. > I am often asked to explain very briefly what Jews believe. To answer this > question, I have written down the following list. The purpose of the list > is > to succinctly explain all of the basic beliefs as fully as possible; and > that the explanation be easily understood by all, including those who have > no prior knowledge of Judaism. As far as I know, there is support for all > of > these beliefs in the Hebrew Bible. I hope to write more about each point > later. > I don’t pretend that the following is set in stone. Hopefully, the readers > will point out mistakes or suggest additions. If you wish to do so, I > again > reiterate that the purpose of this list is to explain Judaism briefly and > simply, yet as fully as possible. I welcome all comments. > Judaism’s Creed (according to amhaaretz.com) > Main > 1. God: God is the creator and ruler of all, eternal, all knowing, all > powerful, infinite, non-physical, non-human-like. God has no gender: the > pronoun He only refers to God by convention. God is unique. None of the > other deities exist: they are a product of human imagination. God is one, > and not composed of distinct personalities. > 2. Instruction: God has instructed humans on the best mode of behavior so > as > to promote life. The Instruction is based on certain unchangeable > universal > constants created by God, and is therefore in effect for all time. We are > obligated to follow this Instruction. The Instruction is contained within > the Hebrew Bible (the Tanakh). > 3. Future: By following the Instruction, humans, over many centuries, will > make significant positive changes in the world. The changes will come from > the collective efforts of many people, over many generation. > Personal > 4. Judgment: Each person is judged solely based on his own actions, > regardless of other factors, such as his beliefs, ethnicity, or sexual > orientation. The actions of others, such as his ancestors, or holy men, > make > no difference. > 5. Atonement: One lives despite his prior mistakes through the following: > prayer; observing the annual Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur); and > repentance, > attempting to correct the mistakes where possible, resolving not to repeat > the mistakes again, and following the Instruction (including helping the > needy). > 6. Reward: God promises to reward the societies which follow the > Instruction; God never promised individual reward. (Also see Future.) > Clarifications > 7. Good and evil: God is the creator of all things, including the things > that we like, and the things that we dislike. There is no such thing as a > devil. While the Hebrew language does have the word satan, and while this > word does appear in the Hebrew Bible, it means something completely > unrelated to the Christian notion of a devil. Bad things do happen to good > people. What matters is not the circumstance, but that the person behaves > according to the Instruction in every circumstance. > 8. Afterlife: There is no heaven, hell, or salvation. We should worry > about > this life; we have no control over, and therefore should not worry about, > what God will do with us in the afterlife, if any. We can take comfort in > the fact that God will do what is best. From the little information about > the afterlife that we do have, it appears that it is a non-conscious > existence. > 9. Messiah: The Hebrew word moshiach ("messiah") means something > completely > unrelated to the Christian notion of Messiah / Christ. There are no > avatars, > man-gods, demigods, or literal children of God. A person cannot take on or > absolve the sins of another (see Judgment). We are not waiting for > anyone’s > coming. The Future will come about through the actions of humanity. > 10. Chosen people: The Hebrew Bible calls Jews "the chosen people" only a > few times, yet the phrase has been distorted to imply that Jews think that > they are inherently superior to non-Jews. This distorted meaning is false. > Jews are "chosen" in the sense that we were chosen to receive the > Instruction and safeguard it throughout the ages. There is no inherent > superiority or inferiority. (Also see Judgment.) > 11. Sacrifice and Atonement: Sacrifice is not necessary for Atonement. The > purpose of sacrifice is to express a person’s feelings of affinity to God. > When such feelings are expressed, it is easier for the person to atone. In > the absence of sacrifice, the same feelings can be expressed through > prayer. > 12. Ten Commandments: The well-known "Ten Commandments" are just a part of > the Instruction, though an important part. > — > [Zionism is NOT Racism, Anti-Zionism is Anti-Semitism]

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> What do Jews believe? [ Beliefs ]

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And how this is relevent to alt.skinheads is ? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> What do Jews believe? [ Beliefs ] > Most people around the world have no clue about what Judaism teaches. Worse > yet, many who think that they know, have misconceptions about Judaism, often > coming from Christianity. > I am often asked to explain very briefly what Jews believe. To answer this > question, I have written down the following list. The purpose of the list is > to succinctly explain all of the basic beliefs as fully as possible; and > that the explanation be easily understood by all, including those who have > no prior knowledge of Judaism. As far as I know, there is support for all of > these beliefs in the Hebrew Bible. I hope to write more about each point > later. > I don’t pretend that the following is set in stone. Hopefully, the readers > will point out mistakes or suggest additions. If you wish to do so, I again > reiterate that the purpose of this list is to explain Judaism briefly and > simply, yet as fully as possible. I welcome all comments. > Judaism’s Creed (according to amhaaretz.com) > Main > 1. God: God is the creator and ruler of all, eternal, all knowing, all > powerful, infinite, non-physical, non-human-like. God has no gender: the > pronoun He only refers to God by convention. God is unique. None of the > other deities exist: they are a product of human imagination. God is one, > and not composed of distinct personalities. > 2. Instruction: God has instructed humans on the best mode of behavior so as > to promote life. The Instruction is based on certain unchangeable universal > constants created by God, and is therefore in effect for all time. We are > obligated to follow this Instruction. The Instruction is contained within > the Hebrew Bible (the Tanakh). > 3. Future: By following the Instruction, humans, over many centuries, will > make significant positive changes in the world. The changes will come from > the collective efforts of many people, over many generation. > Personal > 4. Judgment: Each person is judged solely based on his own actions, > regardless of other factors, such as his beliefs, ethnicity, or sexual > orientation. The actions of others, such as his ancestors, or holy men, make > no difference. > 5. Atonement: One lives despite his prior mistakes through the following: > prayer; observing the annual Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur); and repentance, > attempting to correct the mistakes where possible, resolving not to repeat > the mistakes again, and following the Instruction (including helping the > needy). > 6. Reward: God promises to reward the societies which follow the > Instruction; God never promised individual reward. (Also see Future.) > Clarifications > 7. Good and evil: God is the creator of all things, including the things > that we like, and the things that we dislike. There is no such thing as a > devil. While the Hebrew language does have the word satan, and while this > word does appear in the Hebrew Bible, it means something completely > unrelated to the Christian notion of a devil. Bad things do happen to good > people. What matters is not the circumstance, but that the person behaves > according to the Instruction in every circumstance. > 8. Afterlife: There is no heaven, hell, or salvation. We should worry about > this life; we have no control over, and therefore should not worry about, > what God will do with us in the afterlife, if any. We can take comfort in > the fact that God will do what is best. From the little information about > the afterlife that we do have, it appears that it is a non-conscious > existence. > 9. Messiah: The Hebrew word moshiach ("messiah") means something completely > unrelated to the Christian notion of Messiah / Christ. There are no avatars, > man-gods, demigods, or literal children of God. A person cannot take on or > absolve the sins of another (see Judgment). We are not waiting for anyone’s > coming. The Future will come about through the actions of humanity. > 10. Chosen people: The Hebrew Bible calls Jews "the chosen people" only a > few times, yet the phrase has been distorted to imply that Jews think that > they are inherently superior to non-Jews. This distorted meaning is false. > Jews are "chosen" in the sense that we were chosen to receive the > Instruction and safeguard it throughout the ages. There is no inherent > superiority or inferiority. (Also see Judgment.) > 11. Sacrifice and Atonement: Sacrifice is not necessary for Atonement. The > purpose of sacrifice is to express a person’s feelings of affinity to God. > When such feelings are expressed, it is easier for the person to atone. In > the absence of sacrifice, the same feelings can be expressed through prayer. > 12. Ten Commandments: The well-known "Ten Commandments" are just a part of > the Instruction, though an important part. > — > [Zionism is NOT Racism, Anti-Zionism is Anti-Semitism]

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Wrong again you IDIOT!!! The Talmud was written over 500 years before Maimonides was born!!! We already went over this several times and I already posted information on Maimonides proving you wrong!!! But you are too stupid to know that, or you flame so much you miss all the posts that have shown your ignorance!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You have never read it! > First of all it is not in English! Second of all you are too stupid to > understand it! Thirdly, all you know is from NAZI and ARAB web sites that > post false quotes from the Talmud and mistranslations and information > out-of-context! > But it is useless to expalin any of that to you, because you are too > filled > with hate!!! > Nothing to explain Maimonides who spent a lifetime organizing talmud lived > in Cairo, and died in Cairo. > I visited his grave there. You probably did not know that jews wanted to > kill him and he felt safe ONLY in a muslim country such as Egypt! > Talmud is readily available in Arabic, Russian , german, and few other > languages. > > > What do Jews believe? [ Beliefs ] > > > Most people around the world have no clue about what Judaism teaches. > > Anyone who can read should read Talmud unexpurgated. It will make your > hair > > curl up!

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This Jew believes that you should go back to Ireland, rejoin the IRA and blow something up. Then when you bitch about terroist plots, you can look in the mirror. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > What do Jews believe? [ Beliefs ] > Most people around the world have no clue about what Judaism teaches. Worse > yet, many who think that they know, have misconceptions about Judaism, often > coming from Christianity. > I am often asked to explain very briefly what Jews believe. To answer this > question, I have written down the following list. The purpose of the list is > to succinctly explain all of the basic beliefs as fully as possible; and > that the explanation be easily understood by all, including those who have > no prior knowledge of Judaism. As far as I know, there is support for all of > these beliefs in the Hebrew Bible. I hope to write more about each point > later. > I don’t pretend that the following is set in stone. Hopefully, the readers > will point out mistakes or suggest additions. If you wish to do so, I again > reiterate that the purpose of this list is to explain Judaism briefly and > simply, yet as fully as possible. I welcome all comments. > Judaism’s Creed (according to amhaaretz.com) > Main > 1. God: God is the creator and ruler of all, eternal, all knowing, all > powerful, infinite, non-physical, non-human-like. God has no gender: the > pronoun He only refers to God by convention. God is unique. None of the > other deities exist: they are a product of human imagination. God is one, > and not composed of distinct personalities. > 2. Instruction: God has instructed humans on the best mode of behavior so as > to promote life. The Instruction is based on certain unchangeable universal > constants created by God, and is therefore in effect for all time. We are > obligated to follow this Instruction. The Instruction is contained within > the Hebrew Bible (the Tanakh). > 3. Future: By following the Instruction, humans, over many centuries, will > make significant positive changes in the world. The changes will come from > the collective efforts of many people, over many generation. > Personal > 4. Judgment: Each person is judged solely based on his own actions, > regardless of other factors, such as his beliefs, ethnicity, or sexual > orientation. The actions of others, such as his ancestors, or holy men, make > no difference. > 5. Atonement: One lives despite his prior mistakes through the following: > prayer; observing the annual Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur); and repentance, > attempting to correct the mistakes where possible, resolving not to repeat > the mistakes again, and following the Instruction (including helping the > needy). > 6. Reward: God promises to reward the societies which follow the > Instruction; God never promised individual reward. (Also see Future.) > Clarifications > 7. Good and evil: God is the creator of all things, including the things > that we like, and the things that we dislike. There is no such thing as a > devil. While the Hebrew language does have the word satan, and while this > word does appear in the Hebrew Bible, it means something completely > unrelated to the Christian notion of a devil. Bad things do happen to good > people. What matters is not the circumstance, but that the person behaves > according to the Instruction in every circumstance. > 8. Afterlife: There is no heaven, hell, or salvation. We should worry about > this life; we have no control over, and therefore should not worry about, > what God will do with us in the afterlife, if any. We can take comfort in > the fact that God will do what is best. From the little information about > the afterlife that we do have, it appears that it is a non-conscious > existence. > 9. Messiah: The Hebrew word moshiach ("messiah") means something completely > unrelated to the Christian notion of Messiah / Christ. There are no avatars, > man-gods, demigods, or literal children of God. A person cannot take on or > absolve the sins of another (see Judgment). We are not waiting for anyone’s > coming. The Future will come about through the actions of humanity. > 10. Chosen people: The Hebrew Bible calls Jews "the chosen people" only a > few times, yet the phrase has been distorted to imply that Jews think that > they are inherently superior to non-Jews. This distorted meaning is false. > Jews are "chosen" in the sense that we were chosen to receive the > Instruction and safeguard it throughout the ages. There is no inherent > superiority or inferiority. (Also see Judgment.) > 11. Sacrifice and Atonement: Sacrifice is not necessary for Atonement. The > purpose of sacrifice is to express a person’s feelings of affinity to God. > When such feelings are expressed, it is easier for the person to atone. In > the absence of sacrifice, the same feelings can be expressed through prayer. > 12. Ten Commandments: The well-known "Ten Commandments" are just a part of > the Instruction, though an important part. > — > [Zionism is NOT Racism, Anti-Zionism is Anti-Semitism]

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> What do Jews believe? [ Beliefs ] > Most people around the world have no clue about what Judaism teaches.

Anyone who can read should read Talmud unexpurgated. It will make your hair curl up!

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You have never read it! First of all it is not in English! Second of all you are too stupid to understand it! Thirdly, all you know is from NAZI and ARAB web sites that post false quotes from the Talmud and mistranslations and information out-of-context! But it is useless to expalin any of that to you, because you are too filled with hate!!!

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> You have never read it! > First of all it is not in English! Second of all you are too stupid to > understand it! Thirdly, all you know is from NAZI and ARAB web sites that > post false quotes from the Talmud and mistranslations and information > out-of-context! > But it is useless to expalin any of that to you, because you are too filled > with hate!!!

Nothing to explain Maimonides who spent a lifetime organizing talmud lived in Cairo, and died in Cairo. I visited his grave there. You probably did not know that jews wanted to kill him and he felt safe ONLY in a muslim country such as Egypt! Talmud is readily available in Arabic, Russian , german, and few other languages. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > What do Jews believe? [ Beliefs ] > > Most people around the world have no clue about what Judaism teaches. > Anyone who can read should read Talmud unexpurgated. It will make your > hair > curl up!

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What do Jews believe? [ Beliefs ] Most people around the world have no clue about what Judaism teaches. Worse yet, many who think that they know, have misconceptions about Judaism, often coming from Christianity. I am often asked to explain very briefly what Jews believe. To answer this question, I have written down the following list. The purpose of the list is to succinctly explain all of the basic beliefs as fully as possible; and that the explanation be easily understood by all, including those who have no prior knowledge of Judaism. As far as I know, there is support for all of these beliefs in the Hebrew Bible. I hope to write more about each point later. I don’t pretend that the following is set in stone. Hopefully, the readers will point out mistakes or suggest additions. If you wish to do so, I again reiterate that the purpose of this list is to explain Judaism briefly and simply, yet as fully as possible. I welcome all comments. Judaism’s Creed (according to amhaaretz.com) Main 1. God: God is the creator and ruler of all, eternal, all knowing, all powerful, infinite, non-physical, non-human-like. God has no gender: the pronoun He only refers to God by convention. God is unique. None of the other deities exist: they are a product of human imagination. God is one, and not composed of distinct personalities. 2. Instruction: God has instructed humans on the best mode of behavior so as to promote life. The Instruction is based on certain unchangeable universal constants created by God, and is therefore in effect for all time. We are obligated to follow this Instruction. The Instruction is contained within the Hebrew Bible (the Tanakh). 3. Future: By following the Instruction, humans, over many centuries, will make significant positive changes in the world. The changes will come from the collective efforts of many people, over many generation. Personal 4. Judgment: Each person is judged solely based on his own actions, regardless of other factors, such as his beliefs, ethnicity, or sexual orientation. The actions of others, such as his ancestors, or holy men, make no difference. 5. Atonement: One lives despite his prior mistakes through the following: prayer; observing the annual Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur); and repentance, attempting to correct the mistakes where possible, resolving not to repeat the mistakes again, and following the Instruction (including helping the needy). 6. Reward: God promises to reward the societies which follow the Instruction; God never promised individual reward. (Also see Future.) Clarifications 7. Good and evil: God is the creator of all things, including the things that we like, and the things that we dislike. There is no such thing as a devil. While the Hebrew language does have the word satan, and while this word does appear in the Hebrew Bible, it means something completely unrelated to the Christian notion of a devil. Bad things do happen to good people. What matters is not the circumstance, but that the person behaves according to the Instruction in every circumstance. 8. Afterlife: There is no heaven, hell, or salvation. We should worry about this life; we have no control over, and therefore should not worry about, what God will do with us in the afterlife, if any. We can take comfort in the fact that God will do what is best. From the little information about the afterlife that we do have, it appears that it is a non-conscious existence. 9. Messiah: The Hebrew word moshiach ("messiah") means something completely unrelated to the Christian notion of Messiah / Christ. There are no avatars, man-gods, demigods, or literal children of God. A person cannot take on or absolve the sins of another (see Judgment). We are not waiting for anyone’s coming. The Future will come about through the actions of humanity. 10. Chosen people: The Hebrew Bible calls Jews "the chosen people" only a few times, yet the phrase has been distorted to imply that Jews think that they are inherently superior to non-Jews. This distorted meaning is false. Jews are "chosen" in the sense that we were chosen to receive the Instruction and safeguard it throughout the ages. There is no inherent superiority or inferiority. (Also see Judgment.) 11. Sacrifice and Atonement: Sacrifice is not necessary for Atonement. The purpose of sacrifice is to express a person’s feelings of affinity to God. When such feelings are expressed, it is easier for the person to atone. In the absence of sacrifice, the same feelings can be expressed through prayer. 12. Ten Commandments: The well-known "Ten Commandments" are just a part of the Instruction, though an important part. — [Zionism is NOT Racism, Anti-Zionism is Anti-Semitism]